Wednesday, July 18, 2012

Consumer Alert!

Do you love your child but want him or her to stay in bed at night?

Is your child in a crib, and you know that he or she could probably climb out of the crib, but you don't want to transition to a toddler bed yet because that would mean a perpetual battle of trying to make your child not ask for water 2348 times a night?

I used to have a solution for you!

It's called a Crib Tent!

Here's the basic idea. Your child is in a crib, and then there's this tent thing that attaches to the crib and covers it up like a champ and boxes your child into the crib like magic. Your baby will sleep soundly and can't get out and hurt herself by falling out of the crib.

It really is a tent on a crib!


Or, if you're the US Consumer Product Safety Commission, it could also be called a DEATH TRAP.

Here's the recall they issued in May of this year (three years after our purchase and daily use of this product by the The Weed household).

Oh sweetie, you'll be safe and sound in here. Unless the tent inverts and suffocates your tiny squirming body. But at least you won't be waking me up in the night asking for Wa Wa *does sign for water*!

The good news in all of this is that we'll probably be eligible to get about $60.00 of refund death-money.

The bad news?

We've got to figure out what the crap to do with a 19-month-old who probably needs to transition to a bed now.

So, I turn to you all.

How do you keep your kids tame as they transition from crib to toddler bed? 

In other news, Nightline's tomorrow. So, plan to watch it. I, for one, plan to be curled up in the fetal position in my closet plugging my ears while it airs, much like the proverbial ostrich in the sand. 

So, yeah, let me know if it's any good....

66 comments:

  1. With our first, we put the Safety 1st Grip 'n Twist door locks on the inside of the door. We'd go and check on him every 30 minutes and put him back in bed. Eventually, we'd find him asleep, either in his bed or curled up by the door. After a few days, he realized we were serious and he'd just stay in bed. With our second, who shared a room with the first, we didn't have to do anything. We just put him in the bed and he stayed. We didn't even have to close the door all the way.

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    1. I agree. I'd suggest, switch to the toddler bed (so she doesn't hurt herself climbing/falling out of the crib), baby proof the room, and have the grip 'n twist on the door so she doesn't roam the house while you are in the fetal position in the closet plugging your ears. ;)

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    2. Yup, us too. We have a toddler lock on the door, and a low toddler bed with a bedrail to keep Espen's acrobatic sleeping contained. He mysteriously fell out of bed twice the first night, but has stayed in ever since. He occasionally gets out of the bed and knocks on the door with urgent shouts like "I have to go to Norway!" (true story), but then we either plop him back in bed and he stays, or he gets bored and goes back to bed on his own. The first few days will probably rough, but she'll get there.

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    3. Holy crap! 'I have to go to Norway!' That made me laugh so hard. I can't even imagine hear that on the other side of a small child's door. My laughter at such a thing is why I will really make a terrible parent some day.

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    4. http://www.okoshoppen.dk/shop/oekologisk-sovepose-koerepose-845p.html How about a sleeping bag...you might want to find a style that isn´t as easy to unzip as this one...

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    5. I'm all for this too. We've used the door knob covers inside with both of our boys, and it's saved my sanity. Especially during that horrible transition when they've decided that naps really aren't necessary - I introduced "Quiet Time" instead, so they could spend an hour in their room reading books and I could still function like a normal mommy the rest of the day.

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  2. Eeep. That sounds terrible. If I have children, I won't be getting one of these.

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  3. With our first we didn't have to do anything, he just stayed. With our second we use the Safety 1st handle covers on the inside of the door. He figured out how to climb out of his crib and open door knobs in the same day! With the handle cover he can't twist the knob to open the door. The first couple of weeks we would find him asleep in front of the door, now that only happens about once a week! I think he finally decided that his bed in more comfortable than the floor! Good Luck :)

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  4. we are brutal. with our son, every time he got out of bed we picked him up and put him back in his bed without saying a single word. eventually he got it. but there was lots of screaming and crying. :)

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  5. Okay, this probably marks us as terrible parents because we used a crib that would be considered a death trap by today's standards. This was the crib that my two older brothers and I each slept in (not all at once, but in turn). Parents bought it new for my oldest brother in 1953. When I had my first child in 1980, the crib was handed down to me, along with matching dresser. All 5 of my kids slept in that crib. We used tie-on crib bumpers and none of them ever got their heads stuck in the slats.

    Once the kids could climb we used a wood extension rail that my dad made. It fit on the drop rail side and had slats and was about 6-8 inches high. You put one side of the crib next to the wall and the other side was the side you put the extension on. No way the monkeys could climb that high.

    Hmm, I guess drop rails are a no-no, too, so the crib did not get handed down to my daughter when my grandson was born. Crib and extension are in my garage still.

    Oh, and like Amber, we used the handle cover on the door thing once my oldest daughter moved from a crib to a bed. We'd have to go back upstairs and put her back in bed once she fell asleep by the door.

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  6. It looks like a mosquito net :) Actually, though, not a bad idea. When one of our sons was just learning to crawl, he would crawl out of his crib . . . we never knew where we'd find him.

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  7. Um, my kids are angels and just always stayed in bed. I consider it to be bc of my mad parenting skills (or maybe the fact that my children were terrified to see what would happen if they got up).

    I am still sad that we aren't having a nightline party at my house tomorrow. I need to find out what time it airs in Hawaii. Can't wait to see the popsicles, I mean you guys!

    Missing the Weeds!

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    1. I was going to say the same thing, I happen to have angelic children as well. Maybe if you, Ashlee, came home from Hawaii, we could be a good influence on the Weed children together.

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  8. No real advice. However reading the recall was terrifying and I am glad your tent held up and did not injure anyone. Also ... I never knew Bed Bath and Beyond had a sister company named Buy Buy Baby ... and perhaps it is merely a result of the circumstances I was introduced to it (reading that recall) but I am still scratching my head over how in the world that name got approved as a good and usable idea.

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  9. We LOVED ours! Here is my take on it:
    http://akajanerandom.blogspot.com/2011/11/her-reign-of-terror.html

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  10. I used the Supernanny technique with my first. (Sit in room, no eye contact, put child back in bed without talking, until they fall asleep.) Our second didn't ever climb out. I taught her how to climb out of her pack n' play once, (we don't use a real crib), and she still didn't try it again. In fact, at age 5, she still won't get out of her bed until her older sister leaves their room. If she was asleep when her sister left, she'll stay in for a LONG time.

    With our third, he never climbed out of the pack n' play either. But his toddler bed was a different story. He conquered the doorknob covers, so we ended up turning around his doorknob so the lock was on the outside. (If you do this, make sure you keep an "unlock from the wrong side" tool in their bedroom.) Then we told him if he came out of his room, we would turn off his nightlight. If he came out again, we locked his door. It didn't take too long and he figured it out.

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    1. Supernanny is for schmucks who have hours and hours to waste while their kids play them for fools and laugh. Every child I've seen on that show would benefit from a good hard wack across the bottom.
      When I was little, I didn't get out of bed because my dad told me not to.
      My advice is to read Bedtime For Frances and wax nostalgic about a time where parents ran the show and "because I said so" was good enough. Those were the good old days.

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  11. Ditto to what Amanda said. We just did this with Ryan because he broke the crib tent after 3 months, then when I was going to get a new one I saw the whole death trap thing so he's in a bed. I just had to accept the fact that he gets out of his bed to play a few times every night before he goes to sleep.

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  12. It wasn't just about the getting out of bed for a glass of water. The first time we ever found my 20 month old out of bed he was...TRUE STORY...sitting on the stairs with a knife trying to cut a banana. Stairs, knives, almost two year old = bad! So, we opted for the crib tent and were crazy careful about it's installation. As soon as it ripped we took it off.

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  13. As a continental European, excuse me for my ignorance, but what is that contraption originally for, except for killing babies? I had three toddlers in my life, and it never occurred to me that I would need anything like unto it. Maybe it's because our homes are smaller, so we have an eye contact with everyone, or something else, I don't know. Or because your convenient stores are much better equipped with contraptions for killing babies?

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    1. Nah, it's probably 'cause Americans like to invent weird things that are totally unnecessary, though, creating a market for something that didn't need created. That thing looks like one of those bug tents we put over food on a picnic table to keep the yellow jackets and flies off the food when we're camping.

      I think my dad should have marketed his crib rail extender. That thing worked like a charm. Kind of the same principle as the bed rails you can buy to put on a bed, only it went on top of the rail.

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    2. It serves two purposes; one, it keeps babies who like to climb out of their cribs in the crib and two, it keeps cats out of the crib. Or at least those are the only two uses I've heard people talk about them for, we didn't use one. I don't think they had those 20 years ago when Fresh Hell Junior was a baby/toddler.

      We did similar as people have stated above for keeping toddler in his room.

      Of course, you'll want to make a big deal about the big girl bed and explain the new routine several times over the course of a few days. My son also played in his room for a bit before getting into bed to fall asleep. That didn't bother us at all, some people just need to burn off more energy than others before they sleep. The flip side of that coin was that he'd talk to himself for a good half hour before calling out to us when he woke up...very sweet memories of his little voice.

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    3. If I understand the purpose of this baby killing device correctly, then you know what. Let me tell you how we, continental Europeans, resolve the problem.

      We always & uniformly put the crib so close to the walls on one side and so close to our double bed on the other that there is a zero chance for a toddler to fall anyplace else but into his or her parent's bosom. I have never understood those people who would put to sleep their toddler in a separate room. They are missing a great deal of incidental pampering, coddling, babying, dandling etc. And besides, if a toddler starts crying in the middle of a night, he or she can be pulled out of the crab and pacified as the parent is still in a deep sleep. It takes a nanosecond, so it doesn't require exiting REM phase. It is more like a dream.

      What losers are you, Weeds! Baby killers & pleasure deniers.

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    4. What a crap. I meant crib, not crab.

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    5. yay for parents who don't mind comforting their child!! I admire you!!

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    6. FG, That is awesome. I am a fan of "gentle parenting" as well. With my first two children I did what many have suggested here, but with the others (I have 5), we did "family bed". I like that a lot better.

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    7. When my babies were 4-5 months and sleeping through the night we moved them from the cot in our room to their own room. They would have a lovely cuddly bedtime routine and then sleep through the night so they weren't missing out on any love and affection. I adore my children but I also love being alone with my husband in our double bed. It is the scene of far too much fun which a toddler has no business being a part of.

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    8. FG: Some couples don't want to go three years without sex.

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    9. Bjorge, I find important to teach my kids about sex at a very early age.

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  14. Would this product help? http://www.amazon.com/BreathableBaby-CribShield-Mesh-Liner-White/dp/B0013FKUW4/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

    I also used the doorknob guard things so my son can't get out of the room.

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  15. And, oh, by the way. We poor continental Europeans won't be able to watch Nightline. Yes, it can be accessed over the internet, but "You appear to be outside United States or it's territories. Due to international rights agreements, we only offer this video to viewers located within the United States and it's territories".

    In other words, Nightline for us, poor continental Europeans, is a no-no.

    I was hoping that Josh would be able to record it while curled up in the fetal position in his closet plugging his ears, and then put it on Youtube, but that's unlikely.

    So, I wonder if anyone else among you guys can do it? Or would that be to embarrassing for Josh because then we could repeatedly watch it until the Youtube videotape wears out?

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    1. you are hilarious lol

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    2. If I'm not mistaken, ABC News actually uploads Nightline to YouTube. I do not know whether you can access it from outside the US, though. But they are up to date and have last night's episode uploaded already. Try going to YouTube and putting "nightline abc" in the search box.

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    3. Inkstained, your suggestion looks promising. Let's pray for the best.

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    4. I'm hoping this works, too, because even though I live in the US we don't have cable. Do they upload the entire thing or just clips?

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    5. I think they upload it by stories. Each Nightline episode consists of three stories of approximately three to four minutes each (it's only a 25 minute show, with commercial breaks).

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    6. I'm in the UK and slightly disturbed to find out we count as one of the US's "territories"...

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  16. I took the wire mattress support completely out so the crib mattress is on the floor inside the crib. So far the walls of the crib are too high to climb. Also if you have a crib where one of the side rails is lower than the other side turn the low side against the wall.

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  17. I waited about 6 more years and voila! No more stamping around asking for water. (Of course, I kept a glas by the bed, put on a night light and provided a nearby restroom. So...all good things come to those who can...wait.

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  18. After going from crib to regular bed at a year old with our first 4 children, which seemed logical at the time but was a poor choice for parental sleep, I wised up with #5...when he figured out how to climb out of the crib at 16 months, we stuck him in a portacrib. Monkeytoes hasn't figured out how to shimmy up the netting yet...

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  19. My friends, who are good LDS folks and who love their kids, had a darling daughter that WOULD NOT SLEEP. After trying everything else known to man, they finally resported to tying their toddler down in bed with soft, silky neckties. That worked - for a little while. They also reversed the doorknob on the bedroom door and locked it from the outside, just in case there was an escape.

    Anyway, it saved both parents from the insane asylum. The daughter was unharmed and grew up to be a normal adult. Neckties.

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    1. That would certainly be grounds to have your kids removed by the government in my country. I work as a nurse and we have a crapload of paperwork to fill out if we need to restrain a patient (these are confused people who try to pull out their airways and feeding tubes and whatnot)...because it is dangerous and can result in death. The idea of using those methods on my child is...nausea inducing.

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  20. I read to my daughter, said prayers with her and laid with her until she was calm.

    I'm real fond of gentle parenting, treating my child as I would want to be treated. She's my daughter, not an inconvenience. Spending time together is a gift, and it doesn't take that long...

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  21. I am a nanny, not a mom, but wanted to mention the 2.5yr old I take care of - we simply stated the rules, very firmly, multiple times a night at first - "You do not get out of your bed. It is nighttime, you stay in your bed at nighttime. ___ will come get you in the morning when the sun comes up."

    When we first switched, we also had a cushion on the floor so that if/when she rolled out of bed, there was a soft landing. After a couple months of no rolling out of bed, we removed the cushion. 2 weeks later, she had a bloody nose from falling out of bed. Bloody noses at 2a? Not fun. I don't recommend removing the cushion/bedrail/whatever-safety-item-you-pick.

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  22. You're up on the nightline website! A lovely picture of the two of you labelled "VIDEO: Josh Weed and his wife Lolly talk to "Nightline" about their unconventional marriage. ABCNEWS.com Jul 18, 2012 10:36 PM" but you can't seem to play video from it. I guess it hasn't "gone live" yet.

    I could tell you my keeping-kids-in-bed tricks but you're not going to read them now. You'll be going off to check the Nightline website ;o)

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    1. I watched a short video on the Nightline website, but I don't know if it was just a clip. Seemed really short. Plus, I watched Nightline last night and the story wasn't on there (for those who don't know, Nightline airs, at least in the Seattle market, at 11:35 p.m. weeknights). I do have my DVR set to record it just in case I fall asleep during it so I'll go back and run the episode again to see if I missed anything.

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    2. I went and reran the last night's Nightline. Nope, Josh & Lolly's story was not on last night. There was a story about two missing girls, the Facebook facelift (as in, the lady didn't like how her profile made her look online so she got a facelift) and Mike Tyson.

      I'm going to say the video I saw this morning is just a teaser for tonight's episode.

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  23. I don't know if anyone stated this already because I didn't read all the other comments but... we turn the doorknob around and lock them in. Then after the crying stops we go unlock the door. After a few nights of kicking against the door and crying and screaming they finally decide it is more comfortable to stay in the crib and sleep rather than crash on the floor in front of the door. And they enjoy the fact that the door won't get locked if they promise to stay in their bed. We did this with 3 children and if necessary will do it with our 4th as well when he's old enough. Good luck!

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  24. Put them in a Sleep sac until they're 3. They can't get their leg over the crib side in a sleep sac.

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    1. That is a genius idea!!
      My 18 month old wears a sleep sac and everyone thinks i'm nuts because i won't give her a blanket. She hasn't climbed out yet but i will keep that in mind when she does.

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  25. Put them in a Sleep sac until they're 3. They can't get their leg over the crib side in a sleep sac.

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  26. We transitioned ours at 18 months because she kept climbing out of the crib and then disassembling it! She will now play for about an hour and then I read her a story and she then stays in bed and falls asleep. When we started this we had to recite "the rules" every night. 1. Stay in bed. 2. Keep clothes on. 3. Don't play in poop. (Oh yeah, I forgot to tell you, she is a poop painter so we have to pin, tape or tie her in her clothes at bed time.)It has taken about 8 months to get her to that point but we have been very consistent in the schedule and she just does it now. I have found that consistency is the key. At 2 1/2 years old we still have to put her footie pajamas on her backwards and pin them in the back so she cannot get them off. Even in the summer at 110 degrees-we do have an a/c unit in her room. It took about 6 times of poop painting the carpet for us to learn which ways work and which don't!

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    1. My oldest daughter did the poop painting. I thought i was the only one! It took me a long time too to figure out to put the sleeper on backward.

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  27. You have plenty of good suggestions. I really don't remember anymore because I am old now. I have a question of my own, probably a stupid one, but what in the wide world are you and Lolly eating in the share thing? Is it a corn cob? The end looks like some part of a lobster?
    I must know. This is how boring my world is. I'm one of the lucky ones! lol
    I will watch nightline!

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  28. Well it's not like you can avoid this forever. Eventually you have to move the kid to the bed. So I just tell myself to suck it up and get it over with.

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  29. We have a very headstrong 22 month old who can climb out of anything. My latest (so far successful and I'm
    Hoping this doesn't jinx it) technique is to sit with him for a minute or so and tell him as long as I hold his hand he has to have his eyes closed. Then I let him know I have to go and do something and I'll be back in a minute but he has to wait quietly. The first few nights I made sure I went Back in pretty quickly. Now I can pretty much wall out once and I'm done but I try and still go I'm while he's awake occasionally just to reassure him that I will come back. Bedtime has gone from a long, stressful experience to a dream ( fingers crossed). Good luck!

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    1. Me too. This is the technique I used with all three of my children. My youngest one is on the autism spectrum and it took me two hole extra years to wean off of this nightly ritual. But I talked to him as we laid there about the day. It was sort of a one sided conversation, he was non-verbal at the time. Now all these years later when It's time for bed sometimes he asks me to come in his room and talk to him. We have the best conversations. All those years of patients really paid off!

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    2. And of course for the first time since I started doing this, tonight did not go as smoothly. Still not terrible though so maybe only a little bit jinxed!!

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  30. This should do the trick. http://www.amazon.com/PetSafe-Cottageview-Kennel-5-Foot---5-Foot-/dp/B001VJ09R8/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1342752841&sr=8-6&keywords=kennel
    Be all: Look, honey! Mommy and Daddy got you a fun little play house! Then lock it.

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  31. I have a 21 month old. I also happen to be cheap. I have been considering cutting the legs off of my crib and cutting a little portion of the drop down side frame so that the crib becomes a toddler bed. The only problem I can see is that there will be dangerous rough edges. I like the idea of getting a toddler bed and putting a child proof door knob cover on. However, I like the idea of a toddler bed that has some sort of wall so my son doesn't roll over and out of the bed. his obsession with motor vehicles makes me want to get him a race car bed or something.

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  32. We recently went through this transition with Oliver. He learned how to get out of his bed and open doors in the same day. We took down his crib and put up a big boy bed. He did not like it at all at first. He moves around a lot in the night and I think he felt like he would fall off. We got a guard rail for the side and that helped a lot. I lay on the floor by him every night and when his eyes are closed, I leave the room. It has taken some time, but it's much better than in the beginning. We leave his door open because I don't want him to feel trapped. He always comes right into our room in the morning. The thing I still struggle with is how early he gets up - like 5:30, sometimes earlier. We got black-out curtains and have a box fan and classical music for white noise but ultimately I think our neighbor's dog wakes him up. So annoying! You know we love sleep as much as you guys do. Good luck with the transition. It's rough but it gets better.

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  33. P.S. We watched Nightline tonight on Youtube and it made me cry. (Of course, I am pregnant and emotional.) We both thought it was well done. You guys did a great job explaining yourselves.

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  34. Oh I LOVE the tent! Ignore the recall! My aunt and uncle used to put a locking screen door on top of their crib =) hahahaha!

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  35. Also Josh and Lolly - loved your adorable family on nightline. Sorry you were so nervous about it airing. I loved it

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